As previously reported by Royal Central, The Duke of York and Prince of Wales are currently in a dispute over whether Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie should become full time working royals.
The young royals, who are seventh and eighth in line to the British throne, are not currently funded by the taxpayer to undertake official engagements on behalf of the Royal Family.
Now Prince Andrew has called for his daughters to be given tax payer funded roles and accommodation at Kensington Palace.
There is a lot of debate and discussion over whether Beatrice and Eugenie should become working royals, and it is a topic that divides royal watchers alike.
When looking at the facts, it is clear that there needs to be younger blood conducting engagements. Currently, the members of the Royal Family who undertake most of the engagements are well over the age of 60. These consist of the Duke of Edinburgh (95), The Queen (90), The Duke of Gloucester (72), The Duke of Kent (81), The Duchess of Cornwall (69), The Prince of Wales (67), and the Princess Royal (66).
Of course, Prince Harry and The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge also undertake engagements, however in 2015, 95-year-old Prince Phillip conducted more engagements in the UK than the three of them combined.
Total number of engagements undertook by each member of Royal Family in 2015
When Prince Phillip and other older members of the family can no longer conduct engagements, somebody will have to pick up on the extra work. Being as the UK has two Princesses sitting around doing not very much, why not give them responsibilities so they can gradually take over some of the senior family members’ responsibilities?
It could be argued that the Princesses’ services would be more useful elsewhere. They have both gained good degrees from universities, receiving 2:1 honours, the highest grade any member of the family has received. Since graduating, they have worked in the arts and finance sector.
Some critics also say that the sisters are too far removed from the throne, however, Princess Alexandra undertakes engagements despite being 50th in line to the throne.
What is your opinion on this matter? Should Beatrice and Eugenie become full time royals? Share your thoughts by commenting below:
I think streamlining is the future. In fact I think anyone not directly in line to the throne should have regular jobs, and that include Beatrice, Eugenie, Harry, Zara, Peter and Edward’s kids. People will take the monarchy more seriously this way.
Cancel Harry?
I would say keep Harry in as he is the future King’s son. However, nieces and nephews of the future King – no.
Exactly!!!! Harry is way too popular as well.
Harry is awesome…..
I see him after a great destiny
They are the queen’ s granddaughter’s she is the Monarch, not Charlie boy….it is nothing to do with him, so he should shut up…..
Charles was involved because he was delegated the responsibility by the Monarch – therefore, he should not shut up, he should fulfill the responsibility and decide.
He is an odious man, it seems that there is one rule for him and one for everyone else…….He bought his concubine into the fold and made her a Duchess – Beatrice and Eugenie are natural born princess’s…….they are the granddaughter’s of a Monarch, the daughter’s of prince, that makes them ROYAL……….so he should shut up, he is not king yet……….
His mother, who is Queen, wanted him to handle it. Nothing more need be said.
He was showing off, keeping his two younger brother’s down so that he can get all the limelight…. If he was allowed the marry a non royal, (his concubine) and make her a duchess, then 2 natural born princess’s should have status as well……..I cannot stand the bloke…………
I agree with this. If William can do it as a future king, so can the rest.
Amen to this. Zara, Peter and Eugenie are doing it right for having civilian jobs. William too of course.
No, they are not capable of work. They have been fired from their previous jobs. They vacation 1/2 the year. All they have done at 28/26 years of age is jet set around the world. Their parents are known influence peddlers and fraud artists. Finally, they have snubbed the Queen and their future Queen. Both are extremely snobbish to the commoner wife of Prince William.
Pretty sure the Duchess of Cambridge can be forgiven, seeing as how she’s had two children in a short period of time and is busy raising them. As for the princesses, I don’t honestly know much about them. I thought one was employed in NY. But I’m new to this site so haven’t seen much news about either of them.
Kate lacks work ethic.
No they should not they are not capable of work they are free loaders just like their father. And far too removed from more senior royals.
Moron. They haven’t received anything free. They both earned the highest marks at university that any royal has ever, and both have jobs in the public sector. Try reading the damn article before spewing hate.
Really, what exactly did they attain from Uni? What are the jobs in public sector? How often are they at work there?
What job does Beatrice have? She is supposedly exploring her “entrepreneurial” interests currently.
No, they would not be good ambassadors for the United Kingdom. They have no dress sense whatsoever and their involvement in royal engagements are only when it would benefit them. They will just become a liability as they were not raised in those positions, and would have to have serious tuition as to how to conduct themselves as working royals.
If having good dress sense is a requirement to be an ambassador for the United Kingdom, Princess Anne would have been under house arrest decades ago!
I think that this applies more fairly to Beatrice than Eugenie. The loathsome Fergie and pompous Andrew drilled it into the girls heads that they were ‘ Princesses of The Blood ‘. It stuck with Beatrice, but Eugenie seems to have no real interest in flaunting her royal ‘ status ‘.
Fergie was treated unfairly by the press……….We attended Sandringham House last summer and learned from the trusted guide there that all the scandal written about Fergie in 90’s were mostly lies, it sells newspapers…..The Royals could not do anything about the press then, but they can now…….That is why you never hear of scandal written anymore about the Royals……..If I was Fergie I would sue, but then I believe she already is, I hope she takes Rupert Murdoch to the cleaners…….those 2 princess’ s have been bought up well and are nice girls, they are the queen’s granddaughter’s and should be treated with more respect, incidently, they are more royal than Camilla, Kate and Sophie…….
I would like to differ from your conclusion based on the numbers. It is true that most of the engagements are done by royals over 70. But that is partially because after asking her cousins to help out with royal duties when she needed them, the queen could not go back and tell them you are no longer needed.
When Charles become king, he and Camilla will take over the duties currently being done by HM and DoE. (Plus some more because they have recently cut their number of duties) The Cambridges will take over the duties done by Charles and Camilla. Anne, Andrew and the Wessex’s will continue as they do now.
Harry (and his future wife) will become a full time royal, with a similar load to Edward/Sophie.
That leaves a few minor engagements, definitely no need for two full time princesses.
No, it is more important to find Harry a wife.
I agree with this completely. This will be the future. With regard to the older royals, you simply cannot take over their roles unless they’re willing to relinquish them. As with most elders, a sense of purpose and generativity keeps them going, and rightly so. Bless them.
You mentioned Prince Harry’s possible future wife. I only hope that she will not be criticized as much as poor Kate has been. May God protect her if she is a commoner because she will be curtsying and groveling the rest of her life.
Absolutely should be working members of the Royal Family come on…. the British like for their Royal Family 2 work for their status and so therefore I believe the princesses are no exception and If Princess Alexandra who’s 50th in line to the throne can carry out engagements then certainly these two brats can!!
Since they are currently not funded by the public in any way, there is little reason for them to have to give up their daytime jobs. Princess Alexandra has been notable for her public work for many decades, at a time when in fact she was herself 9th in line to the throne and it is therefor not surprising that she should continue to carry out various duties. She also happens to be patron of several charities that she assumed after the passing of her late mother, HRH Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent.
AND! she is a lady!
NO, definitely not, just a pair of airheads who’s main concerns appear to be partying, especially on Necker with their Branson pals and posing at every opportunity where there is a freebie, a skill learned from their Father no doubt. Anne’s children, like their Mum should be their role models but that is highly unlikely to appeal.
When looking at the work schedules of the Royals, little credit is given to the hard working Wessex’s
If you’re a royal, then you should do as royals do. I think it’s time that they grow up and represent the royal family appropriately. Just because their mother couldn’t handle it, doesn’t mean they’re excused from doing so. She will be forever called the Duchess of York, but honestly I don’t think she should have that title.
I wonder why Harry is considered? I mean he is far from being King right? Is it because the royal family and the government know he is an asset and very popular?
Harry will one day be the son/brother of the King and very close to the monarch.
The Yorks will never be closer than what they currently are, grandchildren of the monarch (of which there are 8).
Harry’s children will be in the same position as the Yorks.
I doubt it. Harry is different from Andrew and his kids won’t be in the same position as the Yorks. Also Harry is actually very popular 🙂 History doesn’t always repeats itself you know.
Apparently Andrew was also at some point 😉 (bit before my time, so I won’t know) but I was referring to their position in the family, not their popularity ir character. The Yorks, Sarah Chatto and any children Harry has are all in the same position.
Well don’t always assume that things will be the same. Things happen and change for a reason. Well people like Harry moreso than William and he is Diana’s son.
When Charlie boy and his concubine take over, what title will Harry be given then ? As the 2nd son of the monarch is always Duke of York…..What title will Andrew be demoted too then by his bullying older brother ? – maybe he will locked in the tower and murdered…..
Probably Duke of Sussex. But honestly I don’t see the monarchy lasting after The Queen passes and William doesn’t even what to be King.
Don’t judge Beatrice and Eugenie becausa of who are their parents. They are good girls who deserve the chance to be full time working members of the royal family. I really think they can be the next Princess Anne and Princess Alexandra, let’s not waste time thinking the party too much. They were young and have improved a lot.
Women who marry into the royal family should not be working royals because some day, they may not be there.
Maybe, but I think someone should send them to a ‘Finishing School’ in Switzerland. Many things for them to learn, dress sense, humility and and….
All the kids have been working – Harry & William worked full time until they were 30 & then joined the working royals. Eugenie has always worked in the private sector, & Beatrice has followed boyfriend Dave Clark around the world for 10 years. I’m impressed with the amount of work done by charities in the UK – issues & hospices & youth services that we don’t see in Canada – the charity power of the working royals supports that “work” & it needs to continue.
No they should not, but it is time that William, Katherine and Harry did their fair share. They’ve been resting now too long. God bless The Princess Royal who outshines all of them. Long may the Queen live and reign.
Sadly, the young princesses have not been engaged in ‘service’ that is the distinguishing and essential attribute of the monarchy for the past century. They have not served in the armed forces as their cousins William and Harry have and neither has showed any particular devotion to charitable causes beyond themselves. It’s a shame and blame must unfortuntely be placed upon the Duke of York for not preparing them for a future example and role. It perhaps could be remedied over time but not now.
Royal women do not serve in the forces, they do not do Charitable work because they probably have not been allowed, but they both work……they are royal princesses and should be treated as such., one never hears scandal about them…….Princess Margaret was a King’s daughter, she did nothing except enjoy herself and cause scandal with her antics, yet she was allowed royal privileges……….Charlie boy should mind his own business…..
Has anyone asked the two princes if they would like to participate in this venture and if they really want to change residences? I would really like to hear or read their response(s).
Beatrice and Eugenie are in exactly the same position, dynastically, as Princess Margaret’s children. They have no royal role and receive no grace & favour homes. They work and support themselves. No reason why Beatrice and Eugenie should be treated any differently.
There is a difference however between Margaret’s children and Andrew’s as two are direct descendants of the Queen whereas two are not. Charles is right to say no, as the Queen’s other grandchildren would be apt to try and jump on the gravy train and bring it to a grinding halt.
Charlie boy should keep his opinions to himself, he is not king yet……..Andrew’s children are HM grandchildren as well as his……….they are in direct line to the throne through their father and should be treated so………
Not sure if you are British and paying British taxes but assuming you are, if that door opens then you have to apply the same to Princess Anne’s kids and Edward’s child – so you now have 5 grandchildren who will never succeed to the throne and who do not drum up monies from tourists coming to the UK to get a glimpse of them. When you have old folks in the UK who are barely getting by what gives these off spring the right to the tax payers money? They are inconsequential when it comes to “royalty” they are simply privileged children who offer nothing to the allure of royalty. As the Queen always say, the royal family is a business – why would anyone keep an “employee” on the payroll if they have nothing consequential to offer?
They are classed as senior royals as they’ re 8th and 9th in line to the throne, grand children of HM – If they were allowed, then they would contribute to the family firm and so would the other 5 grand children……It’s not their fault that they were born privileged………They are being treated unfairly by Charlie boy, he bought a commoner into the fold and made her royal ( his mistress) when she is not, the other’s are real royals……..He should mind his own business, he is not king yet…….Incidently, I am very British, proud of it, also a 71year old pensioner who is fond of the royals, they are our heritage, but I object to his interference…….
Well Lynn I somehow think you will be in the minority on this one and that Britain would side with Charles if there were a vote. Particularly pensions who have difficulty making their budget stretch on less than $180 a week.
I do not thinks so……We are not talking about British Pensioners, the Royal’s have their own wealth and also it costs British people only 1p a day in taxes towards the Royals – we are debating Selfish, Egotistical Charlie boy, who thinks there should be one rule for him and one for the others………After all he got his own way and married his mistress, making her, (a common tart) into a Royal, and she is on the privy list, so why should not Andrew’s daughter’s who were born royal as where the other 5……..Lord help the family, if he ever gets to the throne, he will have them all out……..
I regret to inform you that the Duchess of Cornwall is not on the privy list. The privy list is the percentage of the income from the Crown Estate that is returned to the Queen from the profits of the Crown Estate, an arrangement begun by George III and re-endorsed by George IV. The privy purse in fact barely covers the Palace expenses and the only person listed as receiving a salary of £395,000 per anum is the Duke of Edinburgh – a sum that the Queen has regularly returned to the Crown Estate, quite apart from the fact that the Queen pays on average £23 million per anum in income tax, even though under law and custom she is not obliged to do so. The Prince of Wales is funded from his revenues as Duke of Cornwall, on which he pays income tax – of these revenues, he uses one third, while the balance is ploughed into the Princes Trust and other charities and works that benefit the youth and business, as well as funding such projects as saving Dumfries House with all its original furnishings as a gift to the nation – an act that put him out of pocket to the tune of £45 million. Please get your facts straight.
You are correct that Charles should refuse. Indeed, since George V, the Queen’s grandfather, royal titles have systematically been limited by the monarch because they felt that to allow several generations of their descendants to continue to use the titles of princes and the honorific of HRH was no longer compatible with a modern society. To that end the title of HRH was limited to the third generation from the throne. To that end you will find that the Duke of Kent is a prince with the honorific of HRH, as are his brother and sister, however, his children no longer do so, and his son, the Earl of St. Andrews has only the title of Earl and will succeed as Duke of Kent without the HRH, as will the son of the Duke of Gloucester. The Earl of Wessex, Prince Edward, will of course succeed his father as Duke of Edinburgh, but he has himself requested that his children should not carry the HRH honorific.
Well researched and explained, thanks! For E & B to expect income through the crown when older folks are finding it difficult to make ends meet seems selfish and elitist to me.
Hear, hear!
No, the Duke of York’s children are in fact the second generation from the crown, as are Margaret’s children since her father was the king. The Duke of York’s daughters are however closer in line to the throne that being the only distinction in terms of proximity to the Crown as such.
Yes I think they should we need to think of the future and with seeing them grow up and recognise them as part of The main family
I thought Princess did good works because they had generous hearts! Guess not these two. If they have such a passion for public good works go for it! Work is it’s own reward.
They should work full time as a royal. This could be a good opportunity for them to show people the skills that they have to be successful. They could be like Princess Madeleine of Sweden who used to be a party girl and is now respected for going her way . There are many similarities between them and Princess Madeleine of Sweden.
They seem to be the most hard working royals like the Swedish royals .
Definitely NOT. They are both hangers on. Let them work to earn a living. Typical move of Andrew! Wants us to pay for them instead of himself!
They do work……. They are Royal Princesses……….They are not hangers on and never cause scandal in the royal circles…….Charlie boy has caused enough over the years, he should shut up and keep his nose out…….
So says a woman who is willing to turn a blind eye to the truth – Diana was already involved in affairs some time before Charles resumed his relationship with Camilla Shand. Just so you also know, while Diana carried the honorific of Lady Diana – it was purely an honorific title as the daughter of an Earl. Legally, that makes her a commoner, and no more royal than her cousin Camilla Shand.
Diana only became unfaithful after she learned of Charles and Camilla…
Wrong again, Diana simply went to the press for sympathy giving her famed TV interview. They were already separated and she had already entered in to relationships before Charles resumed with Camilla. It is amazing how the Diana groupies like yourself choose to alter the time line to suit themselves. Diana was a manipulative, neurotic and self-centred creature who did everything with a view to how it would benefit her personally without consideration to the long term effect on either her sons or the monarchy.
Charles was unfaithful to Diana even before he married her, it is a known fact that he spent the night before his marriage with his concubine, (Dobbin Parker-Bowles)….Diana knew about this affair and wanted to call off the wedding, but was not allowed……She hoped after the wedding things would improve, but they did not, that is what sent her into a frenzy………He thought he was marrying a young, innocent girl who would produce heirs and blend into the background and allow him to carry on with this awful woman who was the manipulative, ambitious, adulterous bitch who wanted Diana ‘s position, she caused Diana much pain and humiliation….Diana simply fought back the only way she could, unfortunately, she paid for it dearly, with loss of life, giving that concubine a chance to steal her position……….Anyway, this is not about Diana it is about the Royal Princess’s who have more right to royal status than that Camilla or even Kate and Sophie who were also born commoners…….
Beatrice and Eugenie should do what the rest of the world does and take other work until their C.V. improves enough to give them the pedigree required to meet the public face-to-face. Kate has been employed (whether by her parents or others) Both William and Harry have worked as serving officers, and Wills continues to work in the Air Ambulance service. I would not like these 2 girls to turn out like their parents and bring the Royal family into disrepute. We don`t need the younger element at ANY price. Don`t forget, George will be available in less than 14 years and, Royalist though I am, we do not want to be paying for deadbeats. Get another job girls and show us what you are made of, and let`s hope there is not too much of Andrew and Fergie in the mix !!!!
The chart showing work activities doesn’t reflect any of the ceremonies, etc. that the Duchess of Cambridge attended, such as, (week long) trips to Canada (twice), and additional trips to the Netherlands, USA, New Zealand, Australia, France and south Asian countries.
The royal family may need more younger royals to pitch in, but they need to know how to dress themselves attractively, and how to set a good example of being productively engaged in something besides partying and traveling. Being cute wouldn’t hurt either. The Yorks fail to meet any of these criteria, so I think the royal family should look elsewhere for representation. Maybe the Countess of Wessex could do more? She’s hardly a senior citizen.
Too many ‘hangers on’ already, please don’t add to the burden of the tax payer. I go along with streamlining the Royal family. These two girls are far too removed from the future Royal family.
Yes, I think having Beatrice and Eugenie on board makes complete sense in view of the fact that VERY soon some of the older members will be unable to fulfil these duties. They can start gradually and then take on more duties as and when.
I’m with the Prince of Wales on this.
Don’t expect too much from the wicked witches. After all they have much of their behavior and attitude from their mother and father: Their mother is a known shakedown artist (caught on tape) and their father? Well, his rage and jealousy speaks for itself. so don’t expect too much in the way of actual work from the “hate” sisters.
They are grandchildren of a Monarch the same as Wills and Harry and are close to the throne, Andrew is right, Charlie boy is wrong – but then he always gets his own way, he married Camilla and made her royal, which she is not, Beatrice and Eugenie are true blood royals and should be treated thus………..
I wouldn’t know either of them if I walked passed them in he street
And what a load of crap that they should be treated the same as Prince William and Harry
How about these two getting real jobs and NOT feeding off the public?
The York Princesses should absolutely be tax payer funded and take out Royal engagements, to deny them of this totally undermines the whole concept of their HRH status. They are Princesses of the realm, they’ll never ever be taken seriously in actual day to day jobs, it just isn’t feasible, how can they be when their status alone dictates that they must be curtsied to. They are born Royal, and should be Royal. They are young and can do far more for the royal family at their age then the older cousins of her Majesty.